{"id":3302,"date":"2022-10-06T15:13:00","date_gmt":"2022-10-06T13:13:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/10.0.3.10\/?p=3302"},"modified":"2025-08-07T11:44:05","modified_gmt":"2025-08-07T09:44:05","slug":"podcast-neumlcani-lekarku-sikanovali-lebo-prehovorila-o-poruseni-zakona","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/10.0.3.7\/en\/podcast-neumlcani-lekarku-sikanovali-lebo-prehovorila-o-poruseni-zakona\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast Neuml\u010dan\u00ed: Lek\u00e1rku \u0161ikanovali, lebo prehovorila o poru\u0161en\u00ed z\u00e1kona"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"3302\" class=\"elementor elementor-3302\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-50c28673 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"50c28673\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-10af7d19\" data-id=\"10af7d19\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b1d615a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b1d615a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<p>Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1 ako lek\u00e1rka vo Fakultnej nemocnici Nitra upozornila na bielenie zdravotnej dokument\u00e1cie detsk\u00e9ho pacienta. Z jeho karty zmizla inform\u00e1cia, \u017ee zle zn\u00e1\u0161al antibiotik\u00e1, ktor\u00e9 mu podali miestni lek\u00e1ri. Vedenie nemocnice aj ministerstvo zdravotn\u00edctva bielenie karty popieralo. A\u017e pod tlakom m\u00e9di\u00ed poslalo ministerstvo do nemocnice kontrolu, ktor\u00e1 zistila poru\u0161enie z\u00e1kona.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n\n<p>V druhej epiz\u00f3de podcastu Neuml\u010dan\u00ed doktorka Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1 hovor\u00ed, ak\u00fdm \u2013 niekedy a\u017e absurdn\u00fdm \u2013 situ\u00e1ci\u00e1m musela v pr\u00e1ci \u010deli\u0165 pre to, \u017ee sa ozvala. Napriek tomu ne\u013eutuje, \u010do spravila. Ako hovor\u00ed, inak by ani nemohla kona\u0165. <em>\u201eT\u00e1to diagn\u00f3za \u010d\u00edslo nem\u00e1, ale pre m\u0148a je to pokoj v du\u0161i. Je pre m\u0148a k\u013e\u00fa\u010dov\u00e9 zachova\u0165 si charakter,\u201c<\/em> hovor\u00ed v podcaste.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n\n<p>Z\u00e1rove\u0148 nepopiera, \u017ee rozhodnutie ozva\u0165 sa nebolo jednoduch\u00e9. <em>\u201eTie\u017e som mala strach, ale ke\u010f aspo\u0148 tro\u0161ku c\u00edtia \u013eudia podporu okolia, treba do toho \u00eds\u0165. Mo\u017eno aj ako pr\u00edklad \u010fal\u0161\u00edm,\u201c<\/em> mysl\u00ed si Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n\n<p>Vypo\u010dujte si podcast Neuml\u010dan\u00ed, ktor\u00fd pre v\u00e1s pripravuje \u00darad na ochranu oznamovate\u013eov v produkcii denn\u00edka SME. Ka\u017ed\u00fd prv\u00fd \u0161tvrtok v mesiaci sa v \u0148om zhov\u00e1rame so slovensk\u00fdmi whistleblowermi. Teda s \u013eu\u010fmi, ktor\u00ed odhalili korupciu, podvody \u010di in\u00e9 poru\u0161ovanie z\u00e1konov v pr\u00e1ci a rozhodli sa to ozn\u00e1mi\u0165. A v\u010faka tomu ochr\u00e1nili verejn\u00fd z\u00e1ujem.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-5f7f903 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"5f7f903\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-3bf7d22\" data-id=\"3bf7d22\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f45ef75 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f45ef75\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<iframe style=\"border-radius:12px\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/2tXiF2lBZrpshXxRmzfHBB?utm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"152\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"\" allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1870225 elementor-widget elementor-widget-toggle\" data-id=\"1870225\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"toggle.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-toggle\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-toggle-item\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"elementor-tab-title-2561\" class=\"elementor-tab-title\" data-tab=\"1\" role=\"button\" aria-controls=\"elementor-tab-content-2561\" aria-expanded=\"false\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon elementor-toggle-icon-left\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-closed\"><i class=\"fas fa-caret-right\"><\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-opened\"><i class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-opened fas fa-caret-up\"><\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-toggle-title\" tabindex=\"0\">Textov\u00fd prepis podcastu<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"elementor-tab-content-2561\" class=\"elementor-tab-content elementor-clearfix\" data-tab=\"1\" role=\"region\" aria-labelledby=\"elementor-tab-title-2561\"><p><strong>00:00:05,759 &#8211;&gt; 00:00:49,639 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1 ako lek\u00e1rka vo Fakultnej nemocnici Nitra upozornila na bielenie zdravotnej dokument\u00e1cie mal\u00e9ho Mi\u0161ka. Z jeho karty zmizla inform\u00e1cia, \u017ee pri predch\u00e1dzaj\u00facej hospitaliz\u00e1cii v nitrianskej nemocnici zle zn\u00e1\u0161al antibiotik\u00e1, ktor\u00e9 mu podali miestni lek\u00e1ri. Namiesto toho, aby vedenie nemocnice riadne pre\u0161etrilo tento pr\u00edpad, za\u010dalo \u0161ikanova\u0165 doktorku Pecho\u010diakov\u00fa. Po\u010d\u00favate podcast Neuml\u010dan\u00ed, ktor\u00fd v\u00e1m prin\u00e1\u0161a rozhovory so slovensk\u00fdmi whistleblowermi, teda s \u013eu\u010fmi, ktor\u00ed odhalili vo svojej pr\u00e1ci korupciu \u010di in\u00e9 poru\u0161ovanie z\u00e1konov a postavili sa za spr\u00e1vnu vec. V\u010faka tomu, \u017ee nemo\u010dali, ochr\u00e1nili verejn\u00fd z\u00e1ujem, teda z\u00e1ujmy n\u00e1s v\u0161etk\u00fdch. Moje meno je M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1 a tento podcast pre v\u00e1s vytv\u00e1ra \u00darad na ochranu oznamovate\u013eov v produkci\u00ed denn\u00edka Sme. Dobr\u00fd de\u0148, pani doktorka.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:00:49,639 &#8211;&gt; 00:00:53,119 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dobr\u00fd de\u0148.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:00:53,119 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:00,359 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vy ste dlh\u00e9 roky pediatri\u010dkou a okrem toho aj \u0161pecialistkou na detsk\u00fa reumatol\u00f3giu. Pre\u010do ste si vybrali pr\u00e1cu pr\u00e1ve s de\u0165mi?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:01:00,359 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:48,079 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ke\u010f som kon\u010dila lek\u00e1rsku fakultu a to u\u017e bolo dos\u0165 d\u00e1vno v roku 1986, tak ja som kon\u010dila ako pediatri\u010dka, ako detsk\u00fd lek\u00e1r. \u010ci\u017ee cel\u00fdch t\u00fdch \u0161es\u0165 rokov som bola ur\u010dit\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom smerovan\u00e1 na t\u00fato pr\u00e1cu. Mus\u00edm sa prizna\u0165, \u017ee ke\u010f som za\u010d\u00ednala v tom osemdesiatom \u0161iestom na detskom oddelen\u00ed v Nitre, tak po tom \u0161es\u0165ro\u010dnom \u0161t\u00fadiu som takmer ani nevedela, \u017ee \u010do to je pr\u00e1ca s t\u00fdmi de\u0165mi. Vlastne ma to nau\u010dili t\u00ed moji prv\u00ed u\u010ditelia. V t\u00fdch za\u010diatkoch, ako bol p\u00e1n prim\u00e1r Plenta, p\u00e1n doktor Palkovi\u010d, doktorka L\u00f3\u017eiov\u00e1 a in\u00ed, ktor\u00ed tam doktor Huna, ktor\u00ed vtedy pracovali a ktor\u00ed vlastne boli tak\u00fdmi mojimi prv\u00fdmi u\u010dite\u013emi. A t\u00ed ma tak nau\u010dili t\u00fa l\u00e1sku k t\u00fdm de\u0165om a vlastne by som to teraz za ni\u010d na svete nemenila.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:01:48,079 &#8211;&gt; 00:01:58,879 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ja si to ale predstavujem tak, \u017ee t\u00e1 pr\u00e1ca s de\u0165mi mus\u00ed by\u0165 ove\u013ea n\u00e1ro\u010dnej\u0161ia ako s dospel\u00fdmi, lebo oni v\u00e1m nevedia poveda\u0165, \u017ee \u010do ich bol\u00ed. \u00c1ale mo\u017eno sa m\u00fdlim, mo\u017eno je to naopak n\u00e1ro\u010dnej\u0161ie s t\u00fdmi rodi\u010dmi. Ak\u00e1 je va\u0161a sk\u00fasenos\u0165?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:01:58,879 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:41,219 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pr\u00e1ca s de\u0165mi je \u00faplne \u00fa\u017easn\u00e1. Oni s\u00fa \u00faplne skvel\u00e9. Pr\u00e1ca s rodi\u010dmi naozaj niekedy je komplikovanej\u0161ia. Mo\u017eno t\u00e1 komunik\u00e1cia. \u010casto chc\u00fa, aby sme v kr\u00e1tkej dobe povedali, \u010do ich die\u0165a\u0165u je, ako budeme postupova\u0165 at\u010f. Ja to v podstate ch\u00e1pem, preto\u017ee rodi\u010d nevie alebo nemus\u00ed vedie\u0165 a m\u00e1 pr\u00e1vo ma\u0165 strach o svoje die\u0165a. Je to jeho pr\u00e1vo. Bolo by nenorm\u00e1lne, keby sa o svoje die\u0165a rodi\u010d neb\u00e1l. \u010ci\u017ee to je jedna vec a druh\u00e1 vec. T\u00fdm p\u00e1dom t\u00e1 komunik\u00e1cia niekedy m\u00f4\u017ee by\u0165 s\u0165a\u017een\u00e1 s nimi. To \u00e1no, ale ono sa to d\u00e1, ke\u010f sa pochop\u00ed t\u00e1to filozofia, \u017ee naozaj ka\u017ed\u00fd ten rodi\u010d sa o to svoje die\u0165a boj\u00ed, tak to ide.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:02:41,219 &#8211;&gt; 00:02:51,879 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A v Mi\u0161kovom pr\u00edpade, ktor\u00fd som spom\u00ednala na \u00favod, to boli pr\u00e1ve aj rodi\u010dia, ktor\u00ed sa za v\u00e1s postavili. Sk\u00fasme ale pripomen\u00fa\u0165 posluch\u00e1\u010dom, \u017ee o \u010dom bol tento pr\u00edpad. Ako sa vlastne Mi\u0161ko stal va\u0161\u00edm pacientom?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:02:51,879 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:15,719 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mi\u0161ko le\u017eal na novorodeneckom oddelen\u00ed. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee to bol komplikovanej\u0161\u00ed stav po naroden\u00ed. Ja som na novorodeneckom oddelen\u00ed nepracovala. Lie\u010dili ho komplexne a pod\u00e1vali mu antibiotik\u00e1 do \u017eily. A v podstate pri tej antibiotike lie\u010dbe, to som sa ja len dozvedela z tej dokument\u00e1cie. Predt\u00fdm do\u0161lo k zlyh\u00e1vaniu obli\u010diek, preto\u017ee nebola monitorovan\u00e1 hladina dan\u00e9ho pod\u00e1van\u00e9ho lieku. Die\u0165a bolo prelo\u017een\u00e9 do Bratislavy. V Bratislave to tak uzatvorili, \u017ee do\u0161lo k zlyhanie obli\u010diek najpravdepodobnej\u0161ie vzh\u013eadom na ten pod\u00e1van\u00fd liek, \u010do sa m\u00f4\u017ee vyskytn\u00fa\u0165. A to bolo v podstate v\u0161etko, \u010do som ja z tej dokument\u00e1cie vedela. K n\u00e1m sa dostalo druh\u00fdkr\u00e1t, ke\u010f som ho ja prij\u00edmala na hospitaliz\u00e1ciu. Prv\u00fdkr\u00e1t si nepam\u00e4t\u00e1m. Druh\u00fdkr\u00e1t, ke\u010f pri\u0161iel k n\u00e1m na oddelenie, tak bolo to v slu\u017ebe. Mal mysl\u00edm \u017ee be\u017en\u00fd respira\u010dn\u00fd infekt. Nebol to nejak\u00fd z\u00e1va\u017en\u00fd stav. V tej dokument\u00e1cii, preto\u017ee rodinn\u00e1 anamn\u00e9za a osobn\u00e1 anamn\u00e9za bolo udan\u00e9, \u017ee bol hospitalizovan\u00fd v nemocnici v Bratislave s diagn\u00f3zou zlyhanie obli\u010diek navoden\u00e9 farmakologicky, \u010di\u017ee to tam norm\u00e1lne bolo zap\u00edsan\u00e9 aj in\u00e9, povedzme \u013eahk\u00e9 infekty. Mo\u017eno, \u017ee prekonal. V ak\u00fdch odborn\u00fdch ambulanci\u00e1ch je sledovan\u00fd a to bolo v\u0161etko. T\u00e1 hospitaliz\u00e1cia bola ve\u013emi kr\u00e1tka a on odi\u0161iel domov.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:04:15,719 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:18,719 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010ci\u017ee vtedy v tej zdravotnej dokument\u00e1cii e\u0161te ni\u010d nebolo zabielan\u00e9?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:04:18,719 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:29,979 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nie, lebo ja som ho prij\u00edmala a vlastne tie anamnestick\u00e9 \u00fadaje tam v\u0161etky ostali. Ja som len doplnila, nepam\u00e4t\u00e1m si presne, mo\u017eno \u017ee e\u0161te prekonal nejak\u00fd \u013eahk\u00fd infekt, \u010di\u017ee to tam v\u0161etko bolo.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:04:29,979 &#8211;&gt; 00:04:33,559 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A ako sa teda potom, ke\u010f v\u00e1m dostala t\u00e1 inform\u00e1cia, \u017ee tam bolo nie\u010do bielane na tej karte?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:04:33,559 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:34,879 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>On bol prepusten\u00fd domov a p\u00e1n prim\u00e1r Jakubi\u010dka podpisoval chorobopisy a pri tej kontrole chorobopisov, \u010do teda vypl\u00fdva z poz\u00edcie prim\u00e1ra, videl, \u017ee v dokument\u00e1cii v tej pr\u00edjmovej spr\u00e1ve je zabielen\u00fd tento \u00fadaj. \u010ci\u017ee on v podstate akoby nevedel, \u017ee ja povedal, pri\u0161iel za mnou, \u017ee &#8222;pani doktorka, \u010do ste bielili v tejto dokument\u00e1cii?&#8220; Ja som sa na to pozrela a som povedala, \u017ee ja som ni\u010d nebielila. \u010ci\u017ee on na to upozornil, on na to pri\u0161iel, \u017ee je to tam zabielen\u00e9. No a ja ke\u010f som to uvidela, bolo to v podstate zabielen\u00e9 pod moj\u00edm podpisom a raz\u00edtkom. \u010ci\u017ee som vedela u\u017e predt\u00fdm, \u017ee je nejak\u00e1 s\u0165a\u017enos\u0165 na t\u00fa predch\u00e1dzaj\u00facu hospitaliz\u00e1ciu v tom novorodeneckom obdob\u00ed a ke\u010f som si predstavila, \u017ee toto sa dostane tie\u017e aj t\u00e1to dokument\u00e1cia, povedzme na \u00darad pre doh\u013ead, tak pri\u0161lo k zabielenu nejak\u00fdch \u00fadajov pod moj\u00edm podpisom a raz\u00edtkom. \u010ci\u017ee toto ma dos\u0165 tak prekvapilo, lebo vlastne to bolo na m\u0148a, \u017ee ja som to urobila.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:05:34,879 &#8211;&gt; 00:05:35,799 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>B\u00e1li ste sa vtedy?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:05:35,799 &#8211;&gt; 00:06:11,579 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ani nie. Neb\u00e1la som sa, preto\u017ee ja som to neurobila, len som bola z toho prekvapen\u00e1 a teraz nevedela som, \u017ee ako to rie\u0161i\u0165, aby sme to uviedli na spr\u00e1vnu mieru, lebo viem, \u017ee manipulova\u0165 so zdravotnou dokument\u00e1ciou sa nesmie. Je to poru\u0161ovanie z\u00e1kona. \u010ci\u017ee ke\u010f som to zbadala, som nap\u00edsala list p\u00e1novi riadite\u013eovi nemocnice doktorovi V\u00e1letsk\u00e9mu, \u017ee do\u0161lo k nez\u00e1konnosti.Z\u00e1konn\u00e9mu manipulovaniu so zdravotnou dokument\u00e1ciou nezn\u00e1mou osobou do\u0161lo k zabieleniu, teda podstatn\u00fdch \u00fadajov a \u017ee pros\u00edm, aby to pre\u0161etril. To bolo v\u0161etko.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:06:11,579 &#8211;&gt; 00:06:13,539 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ak\u00e1 pri\u0161la reakcia vedenia?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:06:13,539 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:07,859 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Odpovedali mi do nejak\u00fdch desa\u0165, \u0161trn\u00e1s\u0165 dn\u00ed. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee nebola hne\u010f t\u00e1 odpove\u010f bezprostredn\u00e1, ale ve\u010f to v poriadku. Odpove\u010f mi pri\u0161la, \u017ee k tomu do\u0161lo pri tie\u017e kontrole toho chorobopisu, ktor\u00fa m\u00e1 v n\u00e1plni pr\u00e1ce vtedy n\u00e1mestn\u00ed\u010dka doktorka \u010euri\u0161ov\u00e1, \u017ee do\u0161lo ku kontrole toho chorobopisu, \u017ee ona z poverenia svojej funkcie, tak som tomu vyrozumela, ako by to mohla urobi\u0165. \u010ci\u017ee podstatn\u00e9 je to, \u017ee vinn\u00edka som ja nepomenovala, vinn\u00edka pominul p\u00e1n riadite\u013e, ak to m\u00f4\u017eeme takto poveda\u0165, \u017ee je to pani doktorka \u010euri\u0161ov\u00e1 a teda bol tam e\u0161te tak\u00fd zvl\u00e1\u0161tny dodatok, \u017ee, \u017ee ona teda m\u00e1 pr\u00e1vo robi\u0165 tak\u00e9to kontroly z, alebo mo\u017eno tak\u00e9to z\u00e1sahy. Z toho vypl\u00fdvalo v r\u00e1mci svoje funkcie, ktor\u00fa mala, lebo robila okrem toho, \u017ee bola prednostka Kliniky novorodeneckej, bola aj n\u00e1mestn\u00ed\u010dka Fakultnej nemocnice.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:07,859 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:10,479 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Kto bol zodpovedn\u00fd za pod\u00e1vanie antibiot\u00edk Mi\u0161kovi?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:10,479 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:11,899 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pani docentka \u010euri\u0161ov\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:11,899 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:16,320 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ale ako ste povedali, tak to je vlastne poru\u0161ovanie z\u00e1konov, bielene nejak\u00fdch z\u00e1znamov.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:16,320 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:16,480 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no, \u00e1no.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:16,480 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:21,939 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Do\u0161lo aj potom k nejak\u00e9mu pre\u0161etrovaniu? Dostali ste od riadite\u013ea nejak\u00fa tak\u00fato inform\u00e1ciu, \u017ee sa to bude preverova\u0165?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:21,939 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:36,359 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nie on to&#8211; t\u00e1 odpove\u010f bola od neho, \u017ee on to pre\u0161etril, \u017ee on na to pri\u0161iel, \u017ee ju pomenoval, \u017ee to bola pani docentka, \u017ee ona to m\u00e1 akoby v n\u00e1plni pr\u00e1ce. Ona to m\u00e1 v r\u00e1mci tej kontroly. Nejako konkr\u00e9tne sa k tomu nevyjadroval,<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:36,359 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:38,639 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A nevznikla nejak\u00e1 komisia, ktor\u00e1 by zasadla-<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:38,639 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:39,599 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nie, absol\u00fatne ni\u010d.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:39,599 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:40,979 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>-a preverila to.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:40,979 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:52,079 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T\u00fdm to skon\u010dilo. Ja som mala tento list, \u017ee v podstate nebola som to ja. Vinnik bol ur\u010dit\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom vinnik, teda ten, kto to urobil, bol pomenovan\u00fd pani docentka \u010euri\u0161ov\u00e1. A pre m\u0148a to skon\u010dilo.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:52,079 &#8211;&gt; 00:07:52,979 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010co sa dialo potom?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:07:52,979 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:50,579 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ja som si myslela, \u017ee to skon\u010dilo, ale potom zhruba po mesiaci pri\u0161lo nariadenie, \u017ee teda mi odk\u00e1zala, \u017ee mus\u00edm sa vys\u0165ahova\u0165 z lek\u00e1rskej izby, preto\u017ee nast\u00fapia nov\u00ed lek\u00e1ri, ktor\u00ed na tej lek\u00e1rskaj izbe bud\u00fa, s t\u00fdm, \u017ee s kolegy\u0148ou, s ktorou som tam bola, t\u00e1 tam zosta\u0165 mohla, ja som sa musela vys\u0165ahova\u0165. N\u00e1sledne vymenili aj z\u00e1mok na tej lek\u00e1rskej izbe, lebo som si tam zabudla na druh\u00fd de\u0148 nejak\u00e9 veci. U\u017e som sa tam nedostala. \u010ci\u017ee to bolo jedno. Druh\u00e9, zn\u00ed\u017eili mi ordina\u010dn\u00e9 hodiny v mojej odbornej ambulancii o jeden cel\u00fd de\u0148, ale potom na&#8211; p\u00e1n prim\u00e1r Jakubi\u010dka teda povedal, \u017ee to je ve\u013ea, tak\u017ee iba pol d\u0148a mi zn\u00ed\u017eili ten \u00fav\u00e4zok na tej odbornej ambulancii. No potom som dostala teda pr\u00edkaz od pani prednostky, \u017ee nem\u00e1m pracova\u0165 na oddelen\u00ed, \u017ee m\u00e1m pracova\u0165 iba z mojej odbornej ambulancii a na pr\u00edjmovej ambulancii zobrali n\u00e1m osobn\u00e9 ohodnotenia.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:50,579 &#8211;&gt; 00:08:58,979 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Hej, vy ste mi spom\u00ednali aj tak\u00e9 celkom a\u017e absurdn\u00e9 situ\u00e1cie, \u017ee v\u00e1m stopovali \u00fakony a podobne, na\u010d\u00favali za dverami, a-<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:08:58,979 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:32,299 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To mo\u017eno\u017ee ja by som trochu rozveselila posluch\u00e1\u010dov. To naozaj sa diali tak\u00e9 veci, \u017ee mali sme si presne vykazova\u0165 pr\u00e1cu no\u010dn\u00fa po\u010das slu\u017eby. Tak naozaj mne sa konkr\u00e9tne stalo, \u017ee ma zavolali na oddelenie a ke\u010f ona sl\u00fa\u017eila na svojom \u00faseku, museli vola\u0165 aj ju a ona v podstate s odstopkami v ruke sledovala, \u017ee ko\u013eko je treba pr\u00edjem pacienta alebo kanyl\u00e1cia \u017eily alebo proste tak\u00e9to, alebo zhodnotenie v\u00fdsledkov, \u010do sa mi zdalo \u00faplne ako\u017ee absurdn\u00e9. A nedialo sa to len, nehovor\u00edm to len ja, ale teda aj mojim kolegom.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:09:32,299 &#8211;&gt; 00:09:39,219 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A ak\u00fd mal pr\u00edstup vedenia? Lebo pre riadite\u013ea Valock\u00e9ho sa to skon\u010dilo v momente odoslania toho listu? Alebo potom tam boli e\u0161te nejak\u00e9-<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:09:39,219 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:17,719 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nie, nie, nie. T\u00fdm sa to v podstate skon\u010dilo. A ono to vlastne, znova budem ve\u013emi konkr\u00e9tna, kedy r\u00f4zne tieto absurdity sa na na\u0161ej klinike diali. Kedy za mnou pri\u0161iel p\u00e1n doktor Vyso\u013eajsk\u00fd a on hovoril, \u017ee mali by sme s t\u00fdm ako\u017ee nie\u010do robi\u0165. \u017de bolo by ve\u013emi dobre teda informova\u0165 m\u00e9di\u00e1, \u017ee \u010do sa na klinike vlastne deje. Ja som povedala, \u017ee nechcem, ako\u017ee nechajme to tak. Nechcela som do toho \u00eds\u0165, ale naozaj, e\u0161te by som sa chcela vr\u00e1ti\u0165 k p\u00e1novi prim\u00e1rovi Jakubi\u010dkovi, ktor\u00fd vlastne naozaj to cel\u00e9, by som povedala, \u017ee na to upozornil, ale on potom odi\u0161iel. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v auguste alebo v septembri.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:17,719 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:18,419 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Kv\u00f4li \u010domu?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:18,419 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:26,239 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ja si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee jednoducho u\u017e t\u00fa spolupr\u00e1cu za tak\u00fdchto podmienok, ktor\u00e9 tam boli, odmietol.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:26,239 &#8211;&gt; 00:10:27,379 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mysl\u00edte spolupr\u00e1cu s veden\u00edm?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:10:27,379 &#8211;&gt; 00:11:23,779 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no, s veden\u00edm. \u010ci\u017ee on odi\u0161iel. \u010ci\u017ee zostali sme tam iba teda t\u00ed ostatn\u00ed lek\u00e1ri, samozrejme, no a poveren\u00e1 veden\u00edm bola pani doktorka Labovsk\u00e1, ktor\u00e1 teda chodievala aj na gremi\u00e1lne porady alebo proste na tak\u00e9to stretnutia, ve\u010f \u010do je logick\u00e9 z tej funkcie, ktor\u00e1 jej bola dan\u00e1. No a mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v okt\u00f3bri pri\u0161la z takejto gremi\u00e1lnej porady a teda povedala, \u017ee p\u00e1n riadite\u013e Valock\u00fd sa vyjadril, \u017ee m\u00e1m z\u00e1kaz vstupu na oddelenie. A to po tom v\u0161etkom, \u017ee ke\u010f ma dali pre\u010d z tej lek\u00e1rskej izby, okresali ordina\u010dn\u00e9 hodiny, dali ma do reumatol\u00f3gie, do pr\u00edjmovej ambulancie, ve\u010f to je v\u0161etko v poriadku. Pekn\u00e1 pr\u00e1ca, ale ke\u010f ma zak\u00e1zali vstup na oddelenie, kde som bola ved\u00faca oddelenia, \u010do m\u00e1 tejto funkcie ako\u017ee zbavili a e\u0161te aj z\u00e1kaz vstupu na oddelenie, tak vtedy som si povedala, \u017ee dos\u0165. A vtedy som doktorovi Vyso\u013eajsk\u00e9mu povedala, \u017ee, \u017ee ideme do toho, \u017ee aby oslovil m\u00e9di\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:11:31,739 &#8211;&gt; 00:11:41,580 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ako na cel\u00fa t\u00fato kauzu zareagovalo Ministerstvo zdravotn\u00edctva? Lebo pam\u00e4t\u00e1m si aj, \u017ee sa k tomu nejako vyjadrovali, ale povedzte n\u00e1m to vy svojimi slovami alebo zo svojho uhla poh\u013eadu.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:11:41,580 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:28,059 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ministerstvo zdravotn\u00edctva bolo o tom informovan\u00e9 a ve\u013emi si pam\u00e4t\u00e1m, ke\u010f sa to v\u0161etko medializovalo. Jednak, cez teda, denn\u00edk SME to i\u0161lo. To bolo tak\u00e9 k\u013e\u00fa\u010dov\u00e9. Aj lek\u00e1rska komora bola podpora. Nehovor\u00edm o obrovskej podpore Lek\u00e1rskeho odporov\u00e9ho zdru\u017eenia a tak \u010falej. \u010ci\u017ee oni boli informovan\u00ed. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee my sme tam aj p\u00edsali nejak\u00fd list a v\u00f4bec, \u010do sa celkovo t\u00fdka tej situ\u00e1cie na klinike, tak oni v podstate zareagovali tak, \u017ee lek\u00e1rka nehovorila pravdu, \u017ee som, \u017ee som klamala a teda to, naozaj som bola prekvapen\u00e1, \u017ee t\u00fdm, \u017ee mali naozaj v\u0161etky tie podklady, \u017ee museli vedie\u0165, kto to pre\u010d\u00edtal, \u017ee kde je pravda. Tak toto vy\u0161lo do \u00e9teru. Ke\u010f to m\u00e1m takto poveda\u0165, tak to ma tie\u017e, ako dos\u0165 ma to polo\u017eilo, to si pam\u00e4t\u00e1m.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:28,059 &#8211;&gt; 00:12:39,719 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tam treba poveda\u0165 aj to, \u017ee vlastne pr\u00e1ve v\u010faka Mi\u0161kov\u00fdm rodi\u010dom sa preuk\u00e1zalo, \u017ee vy ste v\u00f4bec neklamali, \u017ee to, \u010do ste hovorili, bola pravda. A po tejto inform\u00e1cii aspo\u0148 pri\u0161lo nejak\u00e9 ospravedlnenie od niekoho?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:12:39,719 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:03,239 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Absol\u00fatne ni\u010d. Absol\u00fatne ni\u010d. K\u013e\u00fa\u010dov\u00fa \u00falohu zohrali t\u00ed Mi\u0161kov\u00ed rodi\u010dia, preto\u017ee keby oni neboli zverejnili t\u00fa dokument\u00e1ciu, ako to bolo, tak my by sme nemohli, lebo je to zasahovanie do t\u00fdch osobn\u00fdch \u00fadajov a tak \u010falej. Tak\u017ee naozaj oni patr\u00ed aj za t\u00fa odvahu, naozaj, oni boli ve\u013emi k\u013e\u00fa\u010dov\u00ed v tom, lebo od toho sa to vlastne odr\u00e1\u017ealo.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:03,239 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:08,960 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ja si pam\u00e4t\u00e1m, \u017ee vy ste p\u00edsali aj premi\u00e9rovi Robertovi Ficovi vtedy. Odtia\u013e pri\u0161la ak\u00e1 reakcia?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:08,960 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:22,359 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u017diadna. My sme aj dotazovali. Bolo povedan\u00e9, ja neviem, \u010di viem presne t\u00fa formul\u00e1ciu, ale teda ten \u00farad, \u017ee lege artis funguje, \u017ee oni bud\u00fa odpoveda\u0165 na ten list, ale je to u\u017e osem rokov, neodpovedali.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:22,359 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:33,419 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vy ste spom\u00ednali, \u017ee t\u00e1 reakcia Ministerstva zdravotn\u00edctva v\u00e1s dos\u0165 polo\u017eila. D\u00e1 sa poveda\u0165 aj, \u017ee v\u00e1s nejak\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom sklamala, \u017ee vlastne z najvy\u0161\u0161ieho vedenia, vedenia rezortu zdravotn\u00edctva nie\u010do tak\u00e9 pri\u0161lo.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:33,419 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:34,239 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Presne tak.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:34,239 &#8211;&gt; 00:13:36,539 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010co bolo pre v\u00e1s v tom celom tak\u00e9 naj\u0165a\u017e\u0161ie?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:13:36,539 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:27,199 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vlastne unies\u0165 cel\u00fa t\u00fa situ\u00e1ciu. Ja som si to tro\u0161ku tak reprodukovala v hlave aj pred t\u00fdmto na\u0161\u00edm rozhovorom, \u017ee vlastne tam bola ohromn\u00e1 t\u00e1 podpora t\u00fdch mojich kolegov. Znova, doktor Vysolajsk\u00fd, doktorka Prableskov\u00e1, doktorka Mikov\u00e1, v \u00favode naozaj aj p\u00e1n prim\u00e1r Jakubi\u010dka a in\u00ed kolegovia, doktor Nem\u010dovi\u010d, v r\u00e1mci nemocnice&#8230; Ale tak som rozm\u00fd\u0161\u013eala, \u017ee \u00e1no, t\u00e1 podpora tam bola, ale vlastne v\u0161etko to bolo ur\u010dit\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom na m\u0148a, lebo ja som bola t\u00e1 ur\u010dit\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom k\u013e\u00fa\u010dov\u00e1 a niekedy som tak poci\u0165ovala tak\u00fa samotuprostredav\u00fa napriek tejto ako\u017ee podpore t\u00fdchto \u013eud\u00ed. \u017de som si hovorila, \u017ee \u00e1no, \u017ee s\u00edce je tam t\u00e1 podpora, ale v podstate \u010dlovek to niesol ur\u010dit\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom s\u00e1m. No a samozrejme, podpora v tej rodine toho m\u00f4jho otca a mojej sestry, to ako to naozaj, to bez nich by ne\u0161lo.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:14:27,199 &#8211;&gt; 00:14:38,699 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010ci\u017ee rodina boli t\u00ed, ktor\u00ed v\u00e1s dr\u017eali pri tom celom, ale v z\u00e1sade aj kolegovia, lebo ak si pam\u00e4t\u00e1m, tam bola tak\u00e1 pet\u00edcia, ktor\u00fa podpisovali lek\u00e1ri naprie\u010d Slovenskom, ktor\u00ed sa v\u00e1s zastali.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:14:38,699 &#8211;&gt; 00:15:14,959 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To ani nie je, \u017ee to bolo tak\u00e9, \u017ee pet\u00edcia na podporu odv\u00e1\u017enej lek\u00e1rky a to neboli, \u017ee lek\u00e1ri, to boli \u013eudia z cel\u00e9ho Slovenska, ako\u017ee \u00faplne aj ve\u013ea lek\u00e1rov, samozrejme, ale aj in\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed, in\u00fdch profesi\u00ed tam boli aj herci a aj s tak\u00fdmi akademick\u00fdmi titulmi. Dokonca som tam mala Slov\u00e1ci \u017eij\u00faci v Kanade, v Amerike teda tak\u00fdch p\u00e1r. Ja to m\u00e1m v\u0161etko ako\u017ee vytla\u010den\u00e9. To bolo \u00faplne ako\u017ee \u00fa\u017easn\u00e9. Nielen\u017ee tie podpisy, ale tam potom e\u0161te tak\u00e9 komenty niektor\u00ed d\u00e1vali, ako to bolo \u00faplne skvel\u00e9. To bolo o dve tis\u00edce p\u00e4\u0165sto alebo do tri tis\u00edc podpisov. Ako\u017ee to bolo, to bolo naozaj skvel\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:15:14,959 &#8211;&gt; 00:15:46,079 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Toto m\u00f4\u017ee by\u0165 aj jedna z ob\u00e1v in\u00fdch oznamovate\u013eov, \u017ee bud\u00fa ma\u0165 pocit, \u017ee s\u00fa na to sami, \u017ee ich t\u00e1 spolo\u010dnos\u0165 alebo kolegovia akokeby vyl\u00fa\u010dia. Ale mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee vy ste s \u017eiv\u00fdm pr\u00edkladom toho, \u017ee \u00faplne to tak nemus\u00ed by\u0165, \u017ee za v\u00e1s sa naozaj postavili kolegovia, ako hovor\u00edte aj \u0161ir\u0161ia verejnos\u0165. Dnes okrem toho existuje u\u017e aj \u00darad na ochranu oznamovate\u013eov, ktor\u00fd vie poskytn\u00fa\u0165 podporu \u013eu\u010fom a vie sa ich zasta\u0165, ak ich \u0161ikanuj\u00fa alebo dostan\u00fa v\u00fdpove\u010f. V\u00e1\u0161 pr\u00edpad bol, ako sme hovorili, pomerne aj dos\u0165 medializovan\u00fd. Stret\u00e1vali ste sa aj s nejak\u00fdmi reakciami okolia? Tak\u00fdmi bezprostredn\u00fdmi?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:15:46,079 &#8211;&gt; 00:16:30,999 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no, stret\u00e1vala. V obchodnom centre sa mi stalo viackr\u00e1t, \u017ee \u013eudia nezn\u00e1mi, \u00faplne nezn\u00e1mi \u013eudia, ako zastavili a podporujeme v\u00e1s, sme hrd\u00ed na v\u00e1s. Ako naozaj, \u017ee toto bolo a ja teda spomeniem, \u017ee pred troma t\u00fd\u017ed\u0148ami som bola v obchode a p\u00e1n v mojom veku mo\u017eno trochu star\u0161\u00ed, \u017ee pani doktorka, ve\u010f ja v\u00e1s pozn\u00e1m. Ja hovor\u00edm, \u017ee odkia\u013e ma pozn\u00e1\u0161, ve\u010f ja si to pam\u00e4t\u00e1m to obdobie. \u010ci\u017ee naozaj e\u0161te aj teraz niektor\u00ed \u013eudia si spomen\u00fa a naozaj, aj ma to povzbudilo v tom, \u017ee vlastne to, \u010do som urobila, \u017ee to bolo spr\u00e1vne.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:16:30,999 &#8211;&gt; 00:16:34,840 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010co bol ten moment, kedy ste si vyd\u00fdchli, kedy ste si povedali, \u017ee u\u017e je to za mnou?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:16:34,840 &#8211;&gt; 00:17:46,991 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vtedy, ke\u010f aj v m\u00e9di\u00e1ch odznelo, \u017ee pani docentka bola odvolan\u00e1 zo svojej funkcie. To bolo koncom novembra, mysl\u00edm, alebo za\u010diatkom decembra, nepam\u00e4t\u00e1m si tie \u010dasov\u00e9 \u00fadaje. Bola odvolan\u00e1 aj z funkcie.Povedala, \u017ee aspo\u0148 predsa len nejak\u00e1 t\u00e1 spravodlivos\u0165 existuje. Ja som myslela, \u017ee teda ja som to nepriala, len som si myslela, \u017ee p\u00e1n riadite\u013e, ktor\u00fd vtedy bol, bol teda aj poslancom, aj riadite\u013eom, \u017ee, \u017ee \u010di on tie\u017e poc\u00edti nejak\u00e9 a neviem, ako by som to nazvala proste, \u017ee klamal treb\u00e1rs verejnos\u0165, \u017ee nehovoril pravdu, \u017ee \u010di aj on bude nejako v \u00favodzovk\u00e1ch, \u017ee potrestan\u00fd, to nie je tak\u00e9 \u00faplne spr\u00e1vne slovo. \u010ci\u017ee toto nebolo, ale v podstate tak\u00e1 \u00fa\u013eava, aspo\u0148 to, \u017ee naozaj k tomuto pri\u0161lo, \u017ee ju odvolali z tej funkcie, \u017ee nebola u\u017e potom n\u00e1mestn\u00ed\u010dkou a \u017ee vlastne aj postupne v t\u00fdch m\u00e9di\u00e1ch som to poci\u0165ovala tak\u00e9 o\u010distenie toho svojho mena, ke\u010f aj v t\u00fdch telev\u00edznych novin\u00e1ch odznelo, \u017ee teda bielenie bolo a \u017ee vlastne v\u0161etko to, \u010do som ja hovorila, \u017ee, \u017ee to bola pravda, \u017ee som neklamala.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:17:46,991 &#8211;&gt; 00:17:54,371 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Uhm. Ako to cel\u00e9 popisujete, tak ur\u010dite je asi v\u0161etk\u00fdm jasn\u00e9, \u017ee to nebola \u013eahk\u00e1 sk\u00fasenos\u0165. Dalo v\u00e1m nie\u010do do \u017eivota?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:17:54,371 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:39,371 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ani nie, \u017ee dala do \u017eivota. Ja sa sna\u017e\u00edm ten m\u00f4j \u017eivot \u017ei\u0165 tak, \u017ee aby som bola spravodliv\u00e1, aby som bola nez\u00e1visl\u00e1, \u010di v osobnom \u017eivote alebo povedzme aj v tom profesijnom \u017eivote, \u017ee&#8230; M\u00f4\u017eem to tak poveda\u0165, m\u00e1m \u0161es\u0165desiat rokov, \u017ee v\u0161etko, \u010do som vo svojom \u017eivote dosiahla, naozaj to bolo takou tou mojou cie\u013eavedomos\u0165ou alebo takouto pracovitos\u0165ou. \u010ci\u017ee cel\u00fd m\u00f4j \u017eivot je takto veden\u00fd, sa sna\u017e\u00edm&#8230; Samozrejme, \u017ee \u010dlovek nie v\u017edy, nie v\u017edy sme \u013eudia, hej, \u017ee naozaj s\u00fa aj pochybenia. Ur\u010dite som aj ubl\u00ed\u017eila \u013eu\u010fom, ako \u010do ma mrz\u00ed, mo\u017eno aj vedom\u00e9, aj nevedome proste, to je tak. Ale hovor\u00edte, \u017ee, \u017ee \u010do mi to prinieslo? V podstate ma to len utvrdilo a nie \u017ee prinieslo, \u017ee naozaj tento \u017eivot, tak\u00fd ten \u010destn\u00fd&#8230; A ako som v jednej rel\u00e1cii povedala, mo\u017eno, \u017ee to m\u00f4\u017eem poveda\u0165, to som si tak pripomenula v tomto obdob\u00ed, \u017ee \u010do pre m\u0148a znamen\u00e1 treb\u00e1rs, \u017ee t\u00e1 starostlivos\u0165 o zdravie a o \u013eud\u00ed, \u017ee m\u00e1m dva tak\u00e9 p\u00f3ly. Tak to aj odznelo v m\u00e9di\u00e1ch, \u017ee m\u00e1 to dva tak\u00e9 p\u00f3ly alebo polovice, \u017ee jedna polovica je, \u017ee naozaj, \u017ee starostlivos\u0165, povedzme, \u017ee m\u00e1 dobr\u00fd pocit o to zdravie, hej? Ale u m\u0148a je tam e\u0161te aj t\u00e1 druh\u00e1 polovica a vtedy som to tak pekne povedala, \u017ee, \u017ee t\u00e1to diagn\u00f3za ako\u017ee \u010d\u00edslo nem\u00e1, ale \u017ee pre m\u0148a je to pokoj v du\u0161i. To je pre m\u0148a tak\u00e9 k\u013e\u00fa\u010dov\u00e9, \u017ee cel\u00fd ten&#8230; M\u00f4\u017eem ma\u0165 tro\u0161ku slzy v o\u010diach teraz, lebo som si spomenula na nejak\u00e9 tak\u00e9 tie situ\u00e1cie t\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed a tak \u010falej, \u017ee naozaj zachova\u0165 si ten svoj charakter. Hovor\u00edm, \u017ee samozrejme, ur\u010dite som aj ja mnohokr\u00e1t, mnohokr\u00e1t \u010dlovek pochybil, nebol spravodliv\u00fd, mo\u017eno nebol v\u017edy \u010destn\u00fd, ale d\u00fafam, \u017ee nikdy to nebolo ako \u00famyselne \u0161kodi\u0165 niekomu.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:19:39,371 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:42,491 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Z toho mi vych\u00e1dza, \u017ee by ste to urobili znova, aj po tom v\u0161etkom.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:19:42,491 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:43,051 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ur\u010dite. Ur\u010dite.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:19:43,051 &#8211;&gt; 00:19:45,951 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pre\u010do ste prist\u00fapili na spolupr\u00e1cu s na\u0161im \u00faradom?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:19:45,951 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:29,891 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vtedy, ke\u010f bol tento pr\u00edpad, a aj in\u00e9 pr\u00edpady, napr\u00edklad \u013dubka Lapinov\u00e1, ned\u00e1m ju nespomen\u00fa\u0165, ktor\u00e1 pri\u0161la, pre\u0161la ove\u013ea v\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00edm pr\u00edkor\u00fdm, keby som to mohla tak poveda\u0165. Samozrejme, \u017ee aj in\u00ed. Sme si aj my vtedy spolu tak hovorili, \u017ee vlastne \u010dlovek akoby bol v tom s\u00e1m, hej, \u017ee, ale na\u0161li sa \u013eudia, v\u00fdborn\u00ed \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed n\u00e1m pomohli a t\u00fdm, \u017ee existuje tak\u00fdto \u00farad, je, je dobre o tom vedie\u0165, lebo nemus\u00ed ten \u010dlovek si hovori\u0165, \u017ee: &#8222;Aha, pr\u00edde niekto, pom\u00f4\u017ee mi niekto?&#8220; Alebo kde sa, na koho sa obr\u00e1ti\u0165? \u010co urobi\u0165? T\u00fdm, \u017ee ste, tak proste vie ten \u010dlovek u\u017e teraz, \u017ee je nie\u010do, na ktor\u00fdch sa m\u00f4\u017eem obr\u00e1ti\u0165 a ktor\u00ed mi pom\u00f4\u017eu, ktor\u00ed mi poradia, ktor\u00ed mi povedia.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:29,891 &#8211;&gt; 00:20:33,771 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Aj nie\u010do, \u010do by ste poradili vy \u013eu\u010fom, ktor\u00ed sa mo\u017eno teraz rozhoduj\u00fa, \u017ee \u010di sa ozva\u0165?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:20:33,771 &#8211;&gt; 00:21:37,591 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nechcem poveda\u0165, \u017ee rozhodnutie do tak\u00e9hoto nie\u010doho \u00eds\u0165 je jednoduch\u00e9. Viem to za seba. A znova sa vr\u00e1tim k \u00favodu, ktor\u00fd som chcela na \u00favod poveda\u0165, kedy si ma hne\u010f predvolal v \u00favode p\u00e1n riadite\u013e, kedy mi povedal, \u017ee len \u010dak\u00e1, kedy urob\u00edm chybu, aby mohol na m\u0148a posla\u0165 svojich pr\u00e1vnikov. Ja som bola tie\u017e vtedy v takomto strachu, \u017ee \u010do robi\u0165? Ale ke\u010f maj\u00fa okolo seba \u013eud\u00ed, aspo\u0148 tro\u0161ku c\u00edtia, \u017ee je tam tro\u0161ku podpora toho okolia. A teraz napr\u00edklad ja vyu\u017eijem t\u00fa ot\u00e1zku pred t\u00fdm, ktor\u00fa ste polo\u017eili, \u017ee je tento \u00farad, tak treba do toho \u00eds\u0165. Treba do toho \u00eds\u0165, hlavne ke\u010f vo vn\u00fatri ten \u010dlovek naozaj c\u00edti, \u017ee je to nespravodlivos\u0165. Jednal som \u010destne, spravodlivo, treba do toho \u00eds\u0165. Mo\u017eno \u017ee aj ako pr\u00edklad e\u0161te \u010fal\u0161\u00edm, \u010fal\u0161\u00edm a \u010fal\u0161\u00edm. Aj ke\u010f zase pozor, nie v\u017edy tak, ako ja hovor\u00edm, znova spomeniem t\u00fa moju kamar\u00e1tku, ve\u013emi dobr\u00fa priate\u013eku \u013dubku Lapinov\u00fa. Nie v\u017edy to mus\u00ed ma\u0165 \u0161\u0165astn\u00fd koniec, ale postupne aj aj to pr\u00edde, ak je vec spr\u00e1vna. \u00c1no, ver\u00edm, \u017ee dobre skon\u010d\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:21:37,591 &#8211;&gt; 00:21:39,051 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010eakujem ve\u013emi pekne, pani doktorka.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:21:39,051 &#8211;&gt; 00:21:42,891 [Zuzana Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010eakujem takisto aj ja, \u017ee som mohla to by\u0165.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>00:21:42,891 &#8211;&gt; 00:21:59,231 [M\u00e1ria Hunkov\u00e1]<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Po\u010d\u00favali ste podcast Neuml\u010dan\u00ed, ktor\u00fd pre v\u00e1s vytv\u00e1ra \u00darad na ochranu oznamovate\u013eov. Ak n\u00e1m chcete ozn\u00e1mi\u0165 korupciu alebo in\u00e9 poru\u0161ovanie z\u00e1konov, ktor\u00e9 maj\u00fa dopad na verejn\u00fd z\u00e1ujem, nap\u00ed\u0161te n\u00e1m na neumlcani@ oznamovatelia.sk. Do po\u010dutia o mesiac a dovtedy nezabudnite. Neml\u010da\u0165 je zlato.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>V druhej epiz\u00f3de podcastu Neuml\u010dan\u00ed doktorka Pecho\u010diakov\u00e1 hovor\u00ed, ak\u00fdm \u2013 niekedy a\u017e absurdn\u00fdm \u2013 situ\u00e1ci\u00e1m musela v pr\u00e1ci \u010deli\u0165 pre to, \u017ee sa ozvala. 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